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Post by *~Mrs. Cooper ~* on Oct 20, 2006 16:16:01 GMT -5
A tale of the love between ambulance driver Lt. Henry and Nurse Catherine Barkley during World War I. The action takes place in Italy and the two fall in love during the war and will stop at nothing to be together. The film also analyses Lt. Henry's feelings on war and the purpose of fighting.I saw this movie and, at first, thought it was 'all right' but after thinking about it for a while it was actually a pretty great movie. Coop was gorgeous, as always, though at first I didn't like his 'cheating' style, he actually did this part very well and I may just have to buy it
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Post by coopfan on May 14, 2007 22:46:58 GMT -5
This is my second favorite ww1 Gary Cooper picture right behing Sgt York and goes very well today with both of your picture photos for the day. This is one of the best love stories around and why they had to kill her off at the end is beyond me. I am still very upset about it
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Post by *~Mrs. Cooper ~* on May 14, 2007 22:57:15 GMT -5
Someone told me he died at the end. I danced around it for months until I finally sat down and watched it. The ending was terribly sad. But at least he didn't die...*weakly smiles*
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Post by coopfan on May 14, 2007 23:03:54 GMT -5
Yeah the war was over and they rang the bell and she was dead...... The most depressing ending for a movie of all time. I wish they would have filmed two endings for this one.
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Post by *~Mrs. Cooper ~* on May 14, 2007 23:10:38 GMT -5
I heard they did. Oh gosh, I have to find that article! They made a few endings but chose to have her die - obviously.
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Post by *~Mrs. Cooper ~* on May 14, 2007 23:11:56 GMT -5
Wow, I found it:
Paramount decided, after much disagreement, to keep Hemingway's original ending and fade out after the death of Catherine Barkley. This ending was kept for the European release, but a new ending in which Barkley lives was later added to the U.S. release.
"A Farewell to Arms" originally ran 89 minutes, and was later cut to 78 minutes for a 1938 re-issue. The 89-minute version (unseen since the original theatrical run in 1932 and long thought to be lost) was released on DVD in 1999 by Image Entertainment, mastered from a nitrate print located in the David O. Selznick vaults.
SPOILER: As now shown on U.S. television, the film ends as the novel does, with the death of Catherine.
For the later re-release, the credits were entirely redone in the style of late 1930s and 1940s films. The film as shown on TCM and as released on DVD features the original 1932 film.
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Post by coopfan on May 14, 2007 23:13:14 GMT -5
Boy I would love to see the ending where she lives.
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Post by *~Mrs. Cooper ~* on May 14, 2007 23:13:51 GMT -5
More trivia from the film:
Some references list the play by Laurence Stallings as an uncredited source for the movie. It opened on Broadway in New York City, New York, USA on 22 September 1930 and had 24 performances. The opening night cast included Glenn Anders, Joe Downing, Jack La Rue (also in the film) and Elissa Landi.
Censorship problems arose from early versions of the script, which included phases of Catherine's actual childbirth and references to labor pains, gas, her groaning and hemorrhaging. After these were removed, the MPPDA approved the script, and even issued a certificate for re-release in 1938 when the censorship rules were more strictly enforced. Still, the film was rejected in British Columbia and in Australia, where Hemingway's book was also banned.
Tom Ricketts (as Count Greffi) is supposed to be in this film but was not seen.
Though in the novel Catherine Barkley is described as very tall, 'Helen Hayes ' is a mere 5'.
SPOILER: Cinema managers were offered the film with two endings, one happy and one sad. When Ernest Hemingway got wind of this tactic, he was furious so cinemas in the larger cities, where the mainly pro-Hemingway critics were based, were provided only with the downbeat ending, in accordance with the way the novel ended.
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Post by *~Mrs. Cooper ~* on May 14, 2007 23:14:36 GMT -5
So would I.
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Post by Ajax on May 15, 2007 15:49:33 GMT -5
I cried over the book and I cried over the movie. I don't think I would want to see the ending where she lives, just because I would be expecting the other ending. If I had originally seen that one, and not the one that is true to Hemingway's book, I probably wouldn't have liked the movie much at all, but it does make the book seem clearer in some parts.
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Post by coopfan on May 15, 2007 20:17:12 GMT -5
I just loved her character so much in the movie that it was just too hard seeing her die at the end. It might have been harder for me seeing her die and seeing Gary suffer over it even more so than if Gary would have died at the end.
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Post by Ajax on May 19, 2007 0:29:16 GMT -5
But, in the book, if I remember right, he leaves the hospital after she dies, and he is very broken up about it. It's raining and he's walking away from the hospital, and I think he says something, but I don't remember it, so it wasn't exactly true to form, the ending, so if it was, you would have had to see that anyways.
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Post by butterscotchgreer on Jul 15, 2007 17:37:58 GMT -5
okay kim i watched it!!! and oh my goodness. i loved the part at the beginning when helen hayes trips over him and he is drunk and starts talking about her arch, like he was continuing his previous conversation before the air raid while talking to that other girl. but i cried at the end when he picked her up from her bed and she died, and when she had a miscarriage. but i just loved the way he looked in it, very handsome indeed!!!!
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Post by *~Mrs. Cooper ~* on Jul 16, 2007 22:23:03 GMT -5
Yesss! I took captures from that film, I should upload them from my photobucket account!
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Post by butterscotchgreer on Jul 16, 2007 23:53:14 GMT -5
please do sis, i would love to see them!!!
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Post by coopsgirl on Jul 17, 2007 8:32:36 GMT -5
I'm glad you watched that one b/c it is a good one and was very important in his career. He knew it would be a good role and really wanted it but I think they originally cast Frederic March. Well Gary did eventually end up with the part and he got great reviews and it kind of cemented his status as a great leading man. I don't like any of Hemingway's books but I do like this story. I'm not sure how much it was changed but I know it is somewhat different from the book and maybe that's why I like it . This movie has a lot going for it with a beautiful and heartbreaking love story, very good acting all the way around, and of course a scene of a shirtless Gary I found this snippet from the review of the movie at TCM.com. The movie's love scenes, by the way, were no problem at all for Helen Hayes. Although she was happily married at the time, she harbored an intense crush on Cooper. She freely admitted as much in her autobiography, when, among other Cooper-related confessions, she wrote: "My leading man was Gary Cooper, and like half the women in the world, I was, in the words of the Noel Coward song, "Mad about the boy." They didn't have an affair and she has stated that she was quite upset about that.
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Post by coopsgirl on Jul 17, 2007 12:27:56 GMT -5
I found this snippet from the article about this movie on TCM's website. The movie's love scenes, by the way, were no problem at all for Helen Hayes. Although she was happily married at the time, she harbored an intense crush on Cooper. She freely admitted as much in her autobiography, when, among other Cooper-related confessions, she wrote: "My leading man was Gary Cooper, and like half the women in the world, I was, in the words of the Noel Coward song, "Mad about the boy." I knew she was in love with him and was quite upset that he didn't reciprocate her feelings but I didn't know she was married at the time. My goodness Here's something else I found at TCM.com about Gary and Hemingway. The two spent many competitive vacations together, hunting, fishing, and drinking in the resort town of Sun Valley, Idaho. Cooper, however, was no fool. No matter how much Hemingway insisted, he flatly refused to put on boxing gloves and climb into the ring. Cooper knew that his fine bone structure was a key element of his screen charisma, and he didn't intend to ruin it through pointless macho rough-housing. Hemingway, after all, didn't type with his cheekbones. This cracked me up!
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Post by *~Mrs. Cooper ~* on Jul 17, 2007 13:51:38 GMT -5
I watched this movie again last night and I'm gonna steal a couple snippets from it
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